tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post5317182335562051572..comments2024-03-16T04:40:25.964-07:00Comments on LA Animal Watch: Delgadillo To to Shut Down an Animal Cruelty Task Force and Bernstein CompetitorEd Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-52056287757297946082008-07-09T13:24:00.000-07:002008-07-09T13:24:00.000-07:00"They must take the police academy course PC832, t..."They must take the police academy course PC832, then a two week Humane Academy course and weapons courses if they will carry weapons"<BR/><BR/>PC832 is FAR from a "police academy", college students & security guards can take it as a class, it's only 64 hours!! These guys don't even have to meet the minimum standards to qualify as a sworn 830.1PC in Calif (MMPI, background, 3 phases of grueling medical / physical tests)<BR/><BR/>To be a POST certified police officer I had to complete an 18 week police academy where we lost over 60 people who couldn't cut it, 6 months of insane "training day" like field training and 18 months of probation. This was after I, and 2 others, made the grade out of 100 applicants just to get hired.<BR/><BR/>SPCALA "officers" are under trained, under qualified and sadly unprofessional relative to a real cop. They cant even CCW off duty, sworn officers are police 24/7... these clowns play cop 8 hours a day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-68644779421112396692008-01-10T13:30:00.000-08:002008-01-10T13:30:00.000-08:00Look at the ACTF. They messed up Mason's raid, did...Look at the ACTF. They messed up Mason's raid, didn't read him his rights, destroyed the evidence, the DA and CA won't be prosecuting him because of that. Just because someone is a police officer or animal control officer doesn't mean they will do a good job. SPCALA does a better job than the ACTF hands down. Private or public peace officer, doesn't matter. What matters are the individuals. <BR/><BR/>Another thing, if an spca had a case, they have to take it to the city attorney or district attorney to prosecute it. If they don't think there's a case, they won't prosecute, like with the Mason case. There are checks and balances with spcas. Private spca's have to obey the law just like public peace officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-75341623088199453072008-01-10T12:58:00.000-08:002008-01-10T12:58:00.000-08:00Not just anyone can start an SPCA. You need 20 peo...Not just anyone can start an SPCA. You need 20 people to sign a statement to start one. All 20 citizens can't have a criminal background. They must pass Department of Justice background checks. They must take the police academy course PC832, then a two week Humane Academy course and weapons courses if they will carry weapons. They must have $1,000,000 insurance policy. They have to go through the same background checks as police officers and wardens. SPCALA has been around for 125 years with no problems. They are a private SPCA, so is ASPCA. The SPCAs on Animal Precinct are also private. SPCAs have been around for 150 years. It's totally legal. They get into less trouble than LAPD officers and ACOs for sure. <BR/><BR/>I do agree that they shouldn't have that guy in their spca if he committed a crime.He should have known better than to every try. I still think the city should allow these legal SPCAs to exist. If the nation wants to pass a law to make all of them illegal, fine, but don't single out one group. We need more Humane Officers out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-23215824971349446522008-01-10T09:05:00.000-08:002008-01-10T09:05:00.000-08:00I don't see how the City Attorney's office has any...I don't see how the City Attorney's office has any standing to decide how many humane societies L.A. needs. However, if this group wants enforcement powers, to carry guns, serve warrants and make arrests, no I don't think that's a good idea. As we have seen, the only check on prosecution, if not police powers in this city, is potential liability. But a private group, with limited money -- how scared are they going to be of getting sued? At least City of L.A. has money considerations to keep it from TOO publicly trampling on our civil rights. <BR/><BR/>We hardly need vigilantes with guns and arrest powers, particularly given how nasty and judgmental some elements of this "community" get, even without guns. And if it's true that the guy running it was convicted of arson, frankly that's someone who deserves to have his judgment questioned for the rest of his life. If he'd been convicted of trying to steal and rescue at-risk animals, that would be one thing. But using arson to try to remedy a situation where animals are involved is like hitting someone with a car to get them out of the way of a bus. Hard to see the net benefit to the one being "rescued.".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-48725622723727889752008-01-09T22:27:00.000-08:002008-01-09T22:27:00.000-08:00Anybody can be a humane society or spca.What do yo...Anybody can be a humane society or spca.<BR/>What do you know about California State Humane Officers, like Barbara Fabricant? You have a lot of investigating to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-3425662378580381372008-01-09T17:51:00.000-08:002008-01-09T17:51:00.000-08:00We have one SPCALA and one ACTF, 7 officers, to se...We have one SPCALA and one ACTF, 7 officers, to service all of LA City and LA County, 10,000,000 people. We need more! Look at the stats. They get thousands of calls but only go after a few cases. I know for a fact that many people call with reports of abuse and no one calls them back. <BR/><BR/>We need more SPCAs! It doesn't cost the City a cent.These are private groups. They can't deny them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com