tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post6753033569598687256..comments2024-03-16T04:40:25.964-07:00Comments on LA Animal Watch: Ed Boks Lobby's Santa Monica Council to Defeat Anti-Declaw OrdinanceEd Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-45885469355706729682009-11-24T22:31:54.781-08:002009-11-24T22:31:54.781-08:00Ha! That's pretty funny, Mr. Muzika:
"O...Ha! That's pretty funny, Mr. Muzika:<br /><br />"Only idiots and Republicans talk like that."<br /><br /><br />"Is any legislation you don't like Fascist ?"<br /><br />I have to use this one on my neighbor next time she indirectly attacks me for being a Democrat.<br /><br />Whooo wee!Me, the Fascist.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-81408265700826118322009-11-24T22:26:24.356-08:002009-11-24T22:26:24.356-08:00HELP!
Does this mean that people who defend cats ...HELP!<br /><br />Does this mean that people who defend cats against torture by vets is fascist and illegal?!:<br /><br />" **California Veterinary Medical Association CVMA Commentary on Cat Declaw Bans. The CVMA sponsored SB 762 which was signed by the Governor in July and takes effect January 1, 2010. This law makes it illegal for a local jurisdiction “to prohibit a healing arts licensee from engaging in any act or performing any procedure that falls within the professionally recognized scope of practice of that licensee.”HELP!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-70105303912296313902009-11-23T10:10:05.271-08:002009-11-23T10:10:05.271-08:00What are you talking about, a declawing ban is Fas...What are you talking about, a declawing ban is Fascist legislation? Only idiots and Republicans talk like that.<br /><br />Is any legislation you don't like Fascist and humaniac?Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-5964603205136255632009-11-23T09:51:44.953-08:002009-11-23T09:51:44.953-08:00Ed, shame on you! You call it democracy, snowballi...Ed, shame on you! You call it democracy, snowballing council people and convincing them that fascist legislation is good for the society. Next the humaniacs will be banning books and we'll be back to 1939.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-30073128561892074812009-11-19T10:29:31.521-08:002009-11-19T10:29:31.521-08:00It was this legislation that created the current l...It was this legislation that created the current logjam of declaw legislation.<br /><br />Sometimes businesses, including vets and medical practices need to be regulated. The unrestrained pursuit of profit by vets and doctors is not conscionable.<br /><br />If it were not for this legislation, anti-declaw would not be the law now.Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-81319914899547407422009-11-18T14:12:09.114-08:002009-11-18T14:12:09.114-08:00You people that banned declaws at the 11th hr. wil...You people that banned declaws at the 11th hr. will never be able to pull that crap again in CA!!<br /><br />**California Veterinary Medical Association CVMA Commentary on Cat Declaw Bans. The CVMA sponsored SB 762 which was signed by the Governor in July and takes effect January 1, 2010. This law makes it illegal for a local jurisdiction “to prohibit a healing arts licensee from engaging in any act or performing any procedure that falls within the professionally recognized scope of practice of that licensee.” To read more visit http://www.cvma.net.**Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-39305886049471473052009-11-04T22:43:59.799-08:002009-11-04T22:43:59.799-08:00I have a declawed cat who I found at CSUN. DELCAW...I have a declawed cat who I found at CSUN. DELCAWED CATS ALSO BECOME ABANDONED CATS WHEN NOBODY WANTS THEM. It took me a year to trap this cat so that I could get her fixed. I thought she was a feral cat. She acted like a feral cat. Once I trapped her and the building where she was living (in the crawl space of a bungalow) was going to be demolished, I decided to bring her home. After a year of her getting adjusted to her new home with me, turns out Mindi is a totally tame, declawed, abandoned cat!!!<br /><br />ASSHOLES Declaw cats. Then ASSHOLES ABANDONED their declawed cats just like any other cat they tire of and move! <br /><br />DAMNED IDIOTIC TORTURER, CRIMMINALS. That's what they are.DECLAWING = TORTUREnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-90281521668363269872009-10-31T20:33:18.916-07:002009-10-31T20:33:18.916-07:00I heard that Smith's chief of staff's (Mit...I heard that Smith's chief of staff's (Mitch Englander) father was hired to lobby against this ban. <br /><br />Chances are Smith would probably vote no with or without Harvey Englander's influence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-8108610647498215602009-10-31T18:12:48.433-07:002009-10-31T18:12:48.433-07:00#7, that report contradicts itself because they sa...#7, that report contradicts itself because they say they do not track declaws, then they say declaws in the shelters is a rarity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-30444266812110629322009-10-31T00:31:49.705-07:002009-10-31T00:31:49.705-07:00This report hereprepared by an analyst for LAAS st...This report <a href="http://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2009/09-2213_RPT_CLA_10-27-09.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>prepared by an analyst for LAAS states that it's very rare to have a declawed cat in the shelter. I think they are basing this on the total number of cats. Most "cats" that come into the shelter are neonate kittens 34%. They can't possibly be declawed. Ferals also enter the shelter. It's pretty rare to find a true feral that is declawed. At least the report is kind of neutral. <br /><br />Boks stated in SM that he had no idea, no one has any idea how many declawed cats are in the shelter yet this report shows otherwise. I would ask the cat rescuers or volunteers. They'd know. I would also think the vets would notice it when they examine the cat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-50015179721509857172009-10-29T22:50:47.719-07:002009-10-29T22:50:47.719-07:00More declawed cats adopted from shelters will mean...More declawed cats adopted from shelters will mean more abandoned declawed cats later when owners tire of them anyway. So now, we may be getting more homeless, declawed, cats on the streets who are unable to defend themselves.<br /><br />Brilliant.Brilliantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-8104587198576357332009-10-29T20:46:33.220-07:002009-10-29T20:46:33.220-07:00I can't comment on Boks' alleged alcohol o...I can't comment on Boks' alleged alcohol or morality issues because I have no personal knowledge of them. What I can comment on is his apparent lack of knowledge. From my perspective, I would expect someone with 30 years experience in animal care and control to know what mutilation is. And even if they didn't know (and I would certainly expect someone like Boks who continually flaunts his expertise) to a least look up the definition before using it to argue a point before a city council (and the public).<br /><br />The following are more of my personal opinions:<br /><br />De-clawing a cat IS mutilation. Its NOT amputation because amputation is done when a limb or part of a limb is either dead or dying and must be removed else the patient will die. <br /><br />De-clawing a cat is NOT like cutting your fingers down to the 1st knuckle. It's more like cutting your toes down to the 1st knuckle. Think about it.... and then think about pain in your feet vs pain in your hands. We walk on our feet, not our hands and cats don't have hands, they only have feet (errr.... paws). Now think about it a little more, pain in your hands vs pain in your feet.<br /><br />Personally, I disagree with Boks and feel that an unconditional ban on delcawing cats CAN and SHOULD be implemented. If for some reason a vet finds a cat's life is at risk then of course I would expect amputation of the affected limb. <br /><br />But couldn't this be done through some sort of a waiver process rather than undermine the intent/wording/spirit of a law/ordinance banning mutilation for the sake of convenience?<br /><br /><br />Brad Jensen<br />Cypress,CA<br /><br />PS - It's really a shame on "us" that this is even an issue.<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-43939857021852765412009-10-29T17:14:39.959-07:002009-10-29T17:14:39.959-07:00What I find amazing is his comparison to "oth...What I find amazing is his comparison to "other forms of mutilation." Comparing declawing to ear tipping or spay and neuter is outrageous. <br /><br />First, any animal not suitable for sterilization does not have to be sterilized. Second, sterilization actually prevents some forms of cancer in dogs and cats. Declawing causes medical problems. <br /><br /> Declawing versus ear tipping is like comparing ear piercing to a leg amputation. <br /><br />This line of illogic is egregious and representative of his alcoholic cognition-or lack thereof. Coupled with his lack of morals (as is the case with most malignant narcissists), the man is dangerous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-11546062997382956432009-10-28T22:17:28.147-07:002009-10-28T22:17:28.147-07:00Council member Davis asks Ed Boks if there's b...Council member Davis asks Ed Boks if there's been an increase in cat abandonment due to the West Hollywood ban on declawing cats.<br /><br />Boks says there's been an increase in the number of cats turned into LA shelters for a variety of reasons but its difficult to pinpoint whether the West Hollywood declaw ordinance had anything to do with it... but then he adds, it very well could have. <br /><br />So Ms Davis asks, "Why would you say that?" <br /><br />Boks, "Why do we say we don't know?"<br />(sheesh!!)<br /><br />Ms Davis asks again, "Is there any evidence..." <br />(...that the West Hollywood ban has increased cat abandonment and/or relinquishment I presume).<br /><br />Boks answers by rambling on about how people in West Hollywood are probably taking their cats to providers outside of town to have the amputations done and then changes the subject by saying there are no studies on the number of declawed cats being relinquished in shelters.<br /><br />And this comes from someone with 30 years experience in animal care and control.<br /><br />Well, I've had my scare for the season. <br />Happy Halloween!!!<br /><br />Brad Jensen<br />Cypress,CA<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-73247382319739707142009-10-28T09:43:16.900-07:002009-10-28T09:43:16.900-07:00Boks is an evil criminal liar. I don't use wor...Boks is an evil criminal liar. I don't use words like that for sport. He's bad news and shouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with animals and their well being. Whether he's a whore or not is almost irrelevant in light of the rest of the package.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-76683071357726661102009-10-28T08:19:24.510-07:002009-10-28T08:19:24.510-07:00I could not believe my ears last night.(re: SM Cit...I could not believe my ears last night.(re: SM City Council) Ed Boks MUST be getting paid off to stand there and defend declawing! Thank you for exposing him for what he really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com