tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post3435906700077825239..comments2024-03-16T04:40:25.964-07:00Comments on LA Animal Watch: Boks and Mayeda's Bogus Success NumbersEd Muzikahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-32204463972053451082008-05-16T00:19:00.000-07:002008-05-16T00:19:00.000-07:00Wow, is this seriously Merritt Clifton?I had cause...Wow, is this seriously Merritt Clifton?<BR/><BR/>I had cause to email an expert in feline calici virus one day this week.<BR/><BR/>http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/docs/richard_ford.html<BR/><BR/>I received a prompt, accurate and gracious response within 24 hours.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if he has time to comment on people's weblogs.<BR/><BR/>Particularly those people's weblogs in whose opinion he has no interest.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't read people's weblogs in which I don't have interest. I would find that to be bizarre behavior.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743468030242995869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-41500464602550062182008-05-16T00:17:00.000-07:002008-05-16T00:17:00.000-07:00Is this seriously Merritt Clifton?You do not have ...Is this seriously Merritt Clifton?<BR/><BR/>You do not have time to respond to email in a gracious manner, yet you have time to comment on people's blogs?<BR/><BR/>I emailed an expert on calici virus in cats - http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/docs/richard_ford.html<BR/><BR/>and received a prompt, accurate response within 24 hours.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if he has time to comment on blogs.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743468030242995869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-62997401388308840912008-05-15T15:24:00.000-07:002008-05-15T15:24:00.000-07:00Merritt, you conducted a two hour, on the groud su...Merritt, you conducted a two hour, on the groud survey in a City of 5,000,000 people and maybe 1 million households, and your 2 hour survey of "habitats" came up with almost the same number of dogs as a THREE DAY SURVEY, of unknown size or validity by Animal Help?<BR/><BR/>No wonder you are able to pull statistics out of your hat. Neither your survey or Animal Help would be statistically significant, even if you both conducted your two surveys completely isolated and independent of the other.<BR/><BR/>How many "habitats could you "survey" in two hours?<BR/><BR/>How many did Animal Help survey in three days?<BR/><BR/>When I was with the Census Bureau, we took five weeks to survey just the housed LA population and another two weeks to count the homeless, and we had over 5,000 census takers.<BR/><BR/>A two hour survey and a 3 day survey?Ed Muzikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214241089861837159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-39870786145083552532008-05-15T15:13:00.000-07:002008-05-15T15:13:00.000-07:00Two hours of a foot survey to determine habitat oc...Two hours of a foot survey to determine habitat occupancy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-28094451068521215202008-05-15T15:11:00.000-07:002008-05-15T15:11:00.000-07:00So if understand correctly, 2 hours of calculation...So if understand correctly, 2 hours of calculations resulted in a<BR/>number approximately equal to 90% of what was counted during a 3 day (door<BR/>to door?) survey of some city in India with a human population of over 5 million?<BR/><BR/>Interesting.<BR/><BR/>-bradAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-80781574502982590792008-05-15T15:06:00.000-07:002008-05-15T15:06:00.000-07:00Muzika:You have never set foot on the ground and c...Muzika:<BR/><BR/>You have never set foot on the ground and counted animals.<BR/><BR/>Merritt:<BR/><BR/>I have in fact done this in representative neighborhoods of Milwaukee, just two years ago, which is what led to the Milwaukee discussion; many parts of the Los Angeles area at different times, most recently three years ago; many hundreds of places around the world.<BR/><BR/>In January 2007, demonstrating my methodology, I did a two-hour survey of one particular suburb of Ahmedabad, India, that was followed up by a three-day survey coordinated by Animal Help Ahmedabad. <BR/><BR/>Animal Help found that I had discovered exactly 90% of the dogs, including all of the street dogs. The 10% I missed were basically the indoor lap dogs. With an appropriate adjustment of the compensation factor for possible unseen indoor animals, who leave no visible outdoor tracks or scat, and don't bark at passing strangers, future counts in that area should be bang on target.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-24077051407203407852008-05-15T13:39:00.000-07:002008-05-15T13:39:00.000-07:00That is correct. You (Muzika) have no useful or a...That is correct. You (Muzika) have no useful or active role in the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-73331649313727590262008-05-15T11:33:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:33:00.000-07:00Wow...think that guy has something to hide?Wow...think that guy has something to hide?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-15320691813737673662008-05-15T11:20:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:20:00.000-07:00Thus is Merritt Clifton's response:If & when you r...Thus is Merritt Clifton's response:<BR/><BR/>If & when you run an animal control agency, humane society, municipal planning department, wildlife agency, or grant-giving foundation of significant size, & want help in designing a situation-specific response to an animal population-related problem, I will lend a hand--as I have to assist many hundreds of others over the years, on every inhabited continent.<BR/><BR/>Until then, others need my time (my e-mail box is full of inquiries), & you need to find something useful to do with yours.<BR/>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25037502.post-39247999112561678042008-05-15T11:11:00.000-07:002008-05-15T11:11:00.000-07:00"I have no interest in your opinions?".Wow, that's..."I have no interest in your opinions?".<BR/><BR/>Wow, that's rude.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743468030242995869noreply@blogger.com